The Same Jesus Podcast, season 2

In Episode 4 / Season 2 of the Same Jesus podcast, Russell and A.J. discuss the complex topics of singleness and sexuality, and how conversations about sexual identities must address issues of loneliness, non-sexual intimacy and interdependence.

The Same Jesus podcast is hosted by Russell Joyce and A.J. Swoboda.

Russell Joyce is senior pastor of Faith Center, a Foursquare church located in Eugene, Ore. He is also the director of Foursquare Multiply, which seeks to train, network and multiply the next generation of Foursquare churches across the U.S. He wrote the new book His Face Like Mine: Finding God’s Love in Our Wounds (IVP).

A.J. Swoboda, Ph.D., is assistant professor of Bible, Theology and World Christianity at Bushnell University. He has planted and pastored a Foursquare church in Portland called Theophilus that continues to worship to this day, as well as authored several books including his latest release, The Gift of Thorns: Jesus, the Flesh, and the War for Our Wants (Zondervan).

Thanks to our special guests Jennifer Thigpenn + Tony Scarcello. Jennifer is an ordained minister who currently serves as multiethnic ministry coordinator for the Western District of The Foursquare Church. Tony Scarcello is a pastor, speaker and writer who lives in Springfield, Ore. He is the author of Regenerate: Following Jesus After Deconstruction and also hosts the Regenerate Podcast.

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Additional Resources

Unwanted by Jay Stringer

The Gift of Thorns by A.J. Swoboda